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Reaction to the most recent Blood Ties ep here:

The last Blood Ties brings up a fascinating twist on the vampire trope: Unlike other literary and film vampires who either embraced "the dark road" or struggled with it with varying degrees of angst (Ann Rice's Louis, Nicolas de Brabant from Forever Knight), Henry is SECURE in his religious faith, and in his commitment to the values he derives from it. Vicki, a moral relativist, completely misreads the importance of Henry's faith to him. He really would rather have died than be used by Vicki to do dark magic, no matter how good her "intentions" were. Vicki betrays him on two levels -- she betrays the trust he has given her in letting her inside his guard, and she betrays his profound commitment to the demands of his faith. As he says, his hatred of dark magic is not an affectation. It is part, a very important part, of what defines him, of how he finds his balance between beast and man. As he tells Alexander in the previous episode, the vampire retains his conscience.

I find it very difficult to believe that in the short time remaining (just a few more episodes), Henry will (or SHOULD) trust Vicki again with his vulnerability. She won't be getting near him with a sword any time soon. It's not simply a matter, as lots of the message board discussion I'm seeing on the Lifetime site, of him getting over it and forgiving her, of softening towards her because she did it out of "love" for him. As long as she misses the difference between her moral relativism and his moral absolutism (yes, a wider one, embracing many life choices and conditions that a traditional "church" would condemn, but absolute within his own boundaries nonetheless), he can't ever trust that she won't override his choices again when she thinks it's warranted.

The only way I can imagine this might go is that, cut off as she is at the end of the episode from both Mike's and Henry's support, Vicki will either come to an understanding of where her blindness about the issue of dark magic and the morality Henry represents has led her, or she will be endangered in some way, and Henry and Mike, either separately or together, will need to save her. Turnaround would be fair play of course, if either men, or Henry in particular, must make some choice that VICKI abhors in order to save HER.

In Supernatural fandom, I've heard discussion *waves to Luminosity* about the choices the brothers make to save each other, the devil's deals they make, and how the point of the show may be that their deeper intentions, which are born of love, trump the classical structure of "sell soul, go to hell and be damned." In Henry's world, however, I think the point is not JUST that Vicki did a terrible thing in fouling her spirit to save him, but that she did it, in part, out of arrogance, out of disregard for the seriousness of his committment to his faith.

At this point, it's up to Vicki to transform her understanding if she is to be able to cleanse herself of the taint she has taken on, and redeem her relationship with Henry (and in a related way, with Mike, whose distancing from Vicki is also about integrity, in his case, his integrity as a cop).

For the Highlander fans, I think this ep is this show's "Jimmy scene." Same sense of betrayal. Same sense of misread, missed understanding of the other character's moral center. Same sense of betrayed and bewildered abandonment. Um, less knocking about, but then again, a sharp weapon was involved in a prior scene.

Discuss?
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posted by [identity profile] hidez.livejournal.com at 07:40pm on 25/11/2007
That was really well worded. i know that when the episode ended, my thought was, 'wow, how are they going to fix this in such a short period of time', and not having a clue how it was to be done. i hadn't put as much thought into it as you, but everything you said, i have to totally agree with (including the comments on supernatural and highlander).

i think i'll have to spend a little more time thinking on it. *bg*
 
posted by [identity profile] macgeorge1.livejournal.com at 08:14pm on 25/11/2007
I watched this after church today *g*, and agree with the source of the schism. This show is, however, not Highlander, and hasn't really demonstrated the subtlety and consistency of that show - which also had the luxury of a lot more time to do strong multi-story, multi-season arcs that let events play out in fascinating, complex ways.

My guess is that Vicki will be forced to confront the consequences of tainting her soul (perhaps ending up doing acts that - even by her relativist standards - are unconscionable), and that it will ultimately be Henry who comes to her rescue.
 
posted by [identity profile] devohoneybee.livejournal.com at 08:48pm on 25/11/2007
true... the jimmy scene is in what, season 4? 5? and they've only had this one season. and of course, nothing is Highlander. *g*

but for a first season, they've really come far in exploring some interesting character arcs. i loved that one of the things that made Henry most angry was that Vicki had now put Coreen on "their" radar - vulnerable to evil. Now, Coreen had been doing a fine job of getting in trouble with dark arts-ish boyfriends all by herself, but I think Henry was reacting to a sense that Coreen is, in some sense, under Vicki's protection, and she failed at that job by drawing her in to this particular act. Vicki failed the code of noblesse oblige that still rules the bastard Prince.
 
posted by [identity profile] devohoneybee.livejournal.com at 08:50pm on 25/11/2007
thanks, glad i'm not the only one. *s* if they don't do a season 2 after this, there will be much ire.... *hopes for a new season...*
 
posted by [identity profile] goddess-naunett.livejournal.com at 03:05pm on 26/11/2007
This is season 2...lol
 
posted by [identity profile] devohoneybee.livejournal.com at 04:30pm on 26/11/2007
nah, that's the back set of already filmed eps. I want a REAL season 2. *g*
 
posted by [identity profile] teresa-c.livejournal.com at 05:59pm on 26/11/2007
I completely agree that this is Blood Ties' Comes a Horseman episode. And that arc is exactly when I got sucked in, hard, to Highlander fandom. This episode pushed all the same buttons for me. I don't care if the show isn't as wonderful as Highlander was, I care deeply about these characters so this episode hurt me for them, bad.

I understand your defending Henry's anti-black magic position, particularly if the boards (I don't often read them) are full of "Henry should get over it and forgive her" squeals, but I see Vicki's side like this--Clearly what she did was black magic, but how clear has it been made to her that Henry's position is so absolute? She's seen him participate in magical situations before. He let Maurice hide the chalice with magic (black? I don't know, so likely neither would Vicki). I think his "I can't forgive what you did" speech probably surprised her more because he was upset about the black magic than that he was upset about her stabbing him in the gut (which I would expect Vicki to agree is a little hard to forgive). I respect Henry's position, but I don't think Vicki has seen enough evidence in his behavior to really appreciate it. In the first episode he performs magic himself --albeit with all sorts of caveats-- in order to locate what park Astaroth's servant will show up in. I really think Vicki didn't know he felt this strongly.

And I don't think it matters, anyway. I think she would have betrayed his principles even if she did understand them. (And maybe she did. After all, he *told* her from the floor where he lay that he'd rather die than have her do this.) What's wonderful about this tragedy is the characters are at complete odds with each other because of their own natures. Vicki is incapable of not trying *anything* to save Henry. It's that simple. Regardless of what he wants. If it's true that Henry is incapable of forgiving her for that, well then, it's a hopeless case.

This episode left me feeling exactly like I did after Comes A Horseman. I hope the writers find a way to resolve it better than they did with the second half of The Devil You Know.
 
posted by [identity profile] devohoneybee.livejournal.com at 07:19am on 27/11/2007
I think he's warned her against using the magic of her marks, of using dark magic, often enough for her to know. That's the problem, not that she doesn't know his position, but that she doesn't get just how serious he is about it. And that his position doesn't matter...

I do think he will forgive her, because he does in fact have a great deal of faith. He believes love should conquer all. He believes in redemption. What I don't know is, will he let her inside his guard again any time soon, and will she get it enough, realize the importance of respecting another's most deeply held beliefs, so that he ever should?
 
posted by [identity profile] teresa-c.livejournal.com at 08:29pm on 26/11/2007
And, can I talk about Mike? What exactly is his obligation? He's been trusted with Henry's secret, though he's never been explicitly charged to keep it. (IIRC) But is he under some obligation to hide the existence of the supernatural? I know he didn't want to be too closely associated with the weirder aspects of his (Vicki's) cases, but is there some reason he should have hidden that mummy from Kate? Why not just let her see it too, bring it in for forensic study, etc.? It's not his fault weird things are happening. I didn't quite get his motivation for the whole I-destroyed-evidence-and-lied-to-my-partner thing. Why exactly did he feel he had to do that?

I totally understand why he would "want out." He just wants to be a good homicide detective and deal with normal things he's prepared to deal with. But is telling Vicki "I can't take this anymore" going to stop the weird things from being in his life? Somewhat, yes, since she won't be coming to him with her supernatural problems, but close to half of these monster-of-the-week eps have had an independent existence on the police beat. Does he really think this will all go away because he tells Vicki he can't do this anymore?
 
posted by [identity profile] devohoneybee.livejournal.com at 07:15am on 27/11/2007
Oh, Mike. Just winding yourself up, aren't you? Angry with himself for the choices he makes, too much at war with himself -- he feels the supernatural world is a kind of taint on a well-ordered reality, and doesn't want to expose Kate to it. But the coroner, no problem, apparently -- (can't recall her name, Mohadevan?), because she's already open to possiblity, and the discovery that vampires are real doesn't turn her world upside down. So what does Kate need protecting, at the expense of Mike's integrity as a cop? No, Vicki and Mike never needed to lie to each other, which means Kate is no Vicki, because Mike has to lie to her, he thinks. He can't trust her to handle wherever the facts lead. And he's stuck in that bind, of loving a woman who'll never be simple, who he wants to get over and knows he never will, of never knowing where the boundaries are. Mike, who likes things neat, just passed his chaos limit. Because it got inside him, and he doesn't know what to do. Poor baby.
 
posted by [identity profile] wickedelf.livejournal.com at 10:53pm on 27/11/2007
That is one of Vicki's great flaws. She's one of those people who thinks HER way will always be better and she's the ONLY one who can handle a situation. Whenever she has to back down and admit Mike or Henry would be better off doing something - you can practically see her teeth grinding.

And she feels it is better to put herself at risk than to put anyone else at risk (some of that may be the cop-side of her), perhaps because then she won't be there to feel bad if things go wrong. If she let Henry go, and he died... she would have to live with his loss. Whereas if she goes and dies... she obviously won't. So I would even go so far as to say she didn't do it to save him, so much as to keep from losing him (fine line, but hopefully you get what I mean *g*). It's selfish, but not uncommon.

So regardless of Henry's logic or feelings on a situation, she plows right through with her own 'save the day' plan.

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